Global Industry Webinar

EMESRT Mobile Equipment Fire Management Industry Initiative Webinar 16 November 2022

Presentations delivered by Tony Egan, EMESRT Advisory Group member representing Glencore and Mark Geerssen EMESRT Advisory Group member and Project Lead representing Rio Tinto.


The webinar covered:

  • Who EMESRT is
  • Why the focus on mobile equipment fire
  • What’s been achieved
  • Who’s been involved
  • Introduction to the EMESRT Control Framework
  • What’s next
  • What resources have been developed and where they can be found
  1. Webinar recording 8:00 am session (692 MB)

2. Webinar recording 4:00 pm session (802 MB)


Questions and Answers


Yes, I thank you for the presentation, Mark. I'll love to consider. Maybe more/other analysis in the future I miss the electromobility. Like a root cause analysis in, especially in in underground. Because maybe the industry move forward in this kind of equipment?


One of the parcels of work that we've been doing with one of our member companies is actually trialling some predictive analysis and testing our baseline and our control framework. And in this context, that work is that's progressing pretty well, and we were pretty comfortable we will be able to talk to the problems technology might help us resolve.


I just want to say thanks to Mark for the presentation. It was fantastic and also demonstrated the amount of work involved. And I guess a comment as well Mark, is the part the regulator plays like we're seeing on the sharing of photos in the PR-4 . So I guess it's as Tony said at the beginning, it's that education piece getting the word out to all the organizations. So this is I think it's great to see.


Thank you, Paul. The relationship that we've been able to develop with the regulators has been great and whilst it wasn't mentioned in in our presentation today, the regulators have actually asked us to come and present at their mining engineering forums. So Tony and I have been privileged to attend both the Queensland and NSW Mining Engineering forums. So we've had the opportunity to present this information to all of the engineers that are in those statutory and accountable roles, both surface and underground. Around this work and you know if you think about, you know the regulators. Those, those are guys and girls have been really I'm trying to turn the dial or change things and you know we can see what happens if we if we don't involve the regulators, you know they can potentially start mandating compliance and recommending actions that might not even be practical from an end users’ perspective. We've seen some of that come out of some of the regions where ongoing issues of not so much in fire space have continued to occur. It's just a really, really great environment. I've got to admit, there's no status. Everyone leaves the cap at the door and contributes to solving the problems.


If I could, if I could comment about why it's been successful is that there's a great saying about “everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but not their entitled to their own facts.” That's what the control framework does, is bring together a set of facts. What it does then is allows people to align in their thinking. If you think about why they're just different groups in the industry have been maybe not aligned in the past, it's probably because we've been more based around opinion without the facts and that’s what the control framework has provided, a depth of understanding. To me that's the core of why this is working combined with people that are committed and they're enthused. We've seen that in other mechanisms in the past. You know, many years ago there was an exercise using bow ties in this space, but it didn't deliver the clarity of outcome that the control framework has given us. And to me, that's the platform that's really made the difference.


Where can we see the full list of failure framework outcomes with all the failure modes and business inputs? Your slide mentions 44 and 78 respectively, but it doesn't look like the complete list is in PR-4.


PR-4 has a focus on how we operate and maintain our existing equipment. It does not include full details of site local response and emergency response failure modes and business inputs, nor all of the equipment design details. This information will be available on the EMESRT Mobile Equipment Fire Knowledge Hub in the near future.